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Post by notme on Jun 28, 2012 20:56:18 GMT -5
So, education wise, what I envision is sort of the 'hack-space' model (links below), but with a variety of curriculum. Some of this is just helpful to the community, basic economics, basic accounting, etc. Some of it is culturally useful, for instance teaching history out of more proper books-- id est a peoples history of the US, how to XYZ (grow food, make clothes, whatever) Some of it is training, more useful for needs within the cells-- tech related stuff, reading maps, etc etc. All of this sort of by default and nature feeds into recruitment because people naturally want to get more involved as they get involved. At any rate, I'm sorta just babbling and the point of this post was really the links, off-hand the two hack-spaces I can think of doing stuff sort of what I mean is NYC resistor and Hackers Dojo, they run classes on various subjects, all tech related, generally for free at their own facilities at scheduled times: nycresistor.eventbrite.com/events.hackerdojo.com/I essentially mean "something like this, but with a more political twist and focused towards different subjects"
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Post by Walkabout on Jun 28, 2012 21:00:48 GMT -5
We have one here in Boston called enquantro5 but it's shutting down at the end of the month. I agree that seeking out and cultivating these spaces is important, and if they're not there build them.
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Post by notme on Jun 28, 2012 21:16:09 GMT -5
We have one here in Boston called enquantro5 but it's shutting down at the end of the month. I agree that seeking out and cultivating these spaces is important, and if they're not there build them. Oh totally, I'm less talking about utilizing them, although hey, if theyre there, why not? But more about building them out, The problem with a lot of them is they shut down (as youve noticed) and they tend to be one-tracked minded; I meant mostly utilizing their overarching model.
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Post by Walkabout on Jun 28, 2012 23:15:32 GMT -5
So. The identifying the "what to do"
Adoptive model for use of space. Find Space Revenue source for overhead Space usage/ time alotment
Dance until the next problem.
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Post by notme on Jun 28, 2012 23:31:44 GMT -5
I'm in the 'find a space' mode, I'll be able to fund it most likely, although thats highly dependent on cost, spent the last few hours trying to find something suitable and in the ~$1500/month range in BOS, NYC & DC .. I think I must be high setting those conditions though, not finding much suitable at that price range.
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Post by Walkabout on Jun 28, 2012 23:34:55 GMT -5
Best bet may be to look into a coalition space that has an existing infrastructure that would lease you a night + floor space or a desk or two for 300 - 500 a month.
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Post by notme on Jun 28, 2012 23:44:47 GMT -5
yeah youre probably right; found a place in DC that would do that, but as it turns out the space they wanted to rent has serious environment issues, asbestos, mold, etc.. plus not sure DC is the right place to kick-start, I really think NYC would be, again due to sheer size.
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Post by Walkabout on Jun 29, 2012 2:42:16 GMT -5
It's a great idea, it's just a matter of location and capital. You can get an "office space" in a loft for 1600 a month, but you'll probably be in a dodgy part of town, and when you want to meet with other community organizers it's out of the way or "unsafe" etc.
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Post by notme on Jun 30, 2012 13:55:20 GMT -5
It's a great idea, it's just a matter of location and capital. You can get an "office space" in a loft for 1600 a month, but you'll probably be in a dodgy part of town, and when you want to meet with other community organizers it's out of the way or "unsafe" etc. Well, for me, dodgy part of town is fine, in all earnest/IMHFO people need to be a little less sensitive, there's basically no where in this country thats really *THAT* dodgy, but yeah, I understand I have to deal with other people and their notions of safety/et cetera
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Post by kaymee on Jun 30, 2012 14:24:29 GMT -5
Can you use a community center for basically useful stuff to start? As community connections grow, so will resources for space.
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Post by elisa on Jul 2, 2012 18:08:07 GMT -5
Good idea.
You can always rent space in public schools after hours. They have computer labs with Smart boards even at the elementary level, depending on the neighborhood. Of course, a lot of the schools use Macs only.
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Post by varmintreaper on Jul 5, 2012 22:48:41 GMT -5
what's with the meatspace requirement?
we need to be nimble imo - hackerspaces should be kept free of spooks tho
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Post by cymadd0x on Jul 9, 2012 13:50:08 GMT -5
I'm in the 'find a space' mode, I'll be able to fund it most likely, although thats highly dependent on cost, spent the last few hours trying to find something suitable and in the ~$1500/month range in BOS, NYC & DC .. I think I must be high setting those conditions though, not finding much suitable at that price range. How attached are you to actually being in the city limits? Newark & Union are pretty cheap. Can't speak on BOS & DC though.
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Post by Walkabout on Jul 15, 2012 0:18:57 GMT -5
Maybe that's the true purpose of occupation. Move into a city that's been left to die by the state. Get it back on it's feet and move on.
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Post by elisa on Jul 15, 2012 12:10:57 GMT -5
That is good idea. Creating community that isn't retail based.
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