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Post by Walkabout on Jun 28, 2012 12:45:14 GMT -5
Below are several posts dealing with the general notes and discussion about details. As the original blog post got longer and longer the threads got more disperate, hopefully this forum will help. Also linked is the original blog post where this came from a twit longer. whywalkabout.blogspot.com/2012/06/ga-remodel.html#comment-form
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Post by Walkabout on Jun 28, 2012 12:45:18 GMT -5
KC HoyeJune 26, 2012 9:47 PM I think that we can bang out the semantics of what everyone is saying here in comments and tool out another post with everyone's input. I'd like to get a few other folks ringing in, not sure if Security Cult has been over yet.
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Post by Walkabout on Jun 28, 2012 12:48:07 GMT -5
not_meJune 26, 2012 10:14 PM agreed, although this model overall is going to quickly become unmanageable I think and a wiki or forum format might be better suited overall
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Post by Walkabout on Jun 28, 2012 12:48:15 GMT -5
KC HoyeJune 26, 2012 10:22 PM IAWTC, I'm familiar enough with moderating forums, however setting them up is beyond my ken. I would be willing to invest time into populating and moderating.
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Post by Walkabout on Jun 28, 2012 12:48:25 GMT -5
KaymeeJune 26, 2012 10:29 PM Couple of points just from reading: Strategy section - Key point will be decision-making process about how to interpret what GA mandates. Hardest part? Tactical Black Ops - DISAGREE that this should be open, and that each cell should set own security protocols. Strongly...vehemently...disagree. Details re:getting it done? Fine. Each cell does that. Structure is too important to allow it to be guided by 19 yr old hotheads.
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Post by Walkabout on Jun 28, 2012 12:48:33 GMT -5
KC HoyeJune 26, 2012 10:40 PM Kaymee, I'm not sure what you mean about structure being dictated by 19 yr old hotheads. Can you explain which part you are referencing? The communication between strategy and cells, or allowing black tactical ops to ring in on strategy/ policy? I'm not being deliberately obtuse, I'm just not sure which portion of the threads you are commenting on.
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Post by Walkabout on Jun 28, 2012 12:48:45 GMT -5
not_meJune 26, 2012 11:09 PM re: forums; ill sit down in a little bit and see what I can dig up thats easy to do, google has an amazing amount of services that we can probably get something setup today or tomorrow. This may wait until tomorrow though.. starting to get cooked myself.
re: black ops; I totally agree with you Kaymee, on all points, but a key thing to remember is that we'd be opening ourselves up to RICO and such because that single sub-section essentially could make us a criminal enterprise. It's an area that would require a lot of care in basically every aspect and we may find that a think-tank-esque model where we don't actually operate or oversee any of it, but publish plans and 'hey someone should do something like this' and then hope it gets done may end up being the only realistic outcome. My guess is that a lawyer would simply say "don't"
Aside from that, I totally agree with you on all points, I was mostly leaving it at 'this is a tricky subject thats going to require more thought and professional advice'
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Post by Walkabout on Jun 28, 2012 12:49:00 GMT -5
KaymeeJune 26, 2012 10:52 PM Ah...apologies for not being clearer. I don't think blackops teams should be open to the public, or open in any matter whatsoever to be honest. It's not safe for them or for anyone who has to rely on their results. And I definitely believe we need blackops. What I would like to see is this particular tactical group be extremely rigid about communications structure, and about security structure, while allowed free reign to plan their own ops. Is that any clearer? Reasons for this seem self-evident to me, but please ask if you have further questions.
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Post by Walkabout on Jun 28, 2012 12:49:11 GMT -5
KC HoyeJune 26, 2012 10:53 PM No that clears it up entirely thanks!
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Post by Walkabout on Jun 28, 2012 12:49:20 GMT -5
Cy MaddoxJune 27, 2012 12:26 PM Plausible deniability FTW!
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Post by varmintreaper on Jul 2, 2012 23:32:16 GMT -5
The only thing as far as black ops is that skills and wisdom should bubble up through the interfaces by culture and understanding.
One thing Anonymous got right is constantly refreshing the hive.
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Post by Walkabout on Jul 2, 2012 23:59:59 GMT -5
At this point the two advantages we have are personnel and information. We need to work on coordination and communication.
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